Pedagogically Unfortunate
Albro Swift wrote
The assumption of spatial and mechanical isotropy in all
inertial frames is *empirically* incompatible with the
assumption of unique simultaneity in all inertial frames.
This is the essential physical content of special relativity.
Brian Jones wrote:
Please tell us all what SRT says explicitly about the arbitrary,
solitary inertial observer.
I'd be happy to respond, but it isn't clear what you're asking.
When you say "tell us what SRT says explicitly" it sounds as if
you're asking for a quotation from a book, but of course SRT isn't
a book, it's a theory, and as such it doesn't "explicitly say"
anything. A theory provides a means of answering a class of
questions. If you state a question I'll try to tell you whether
it's in the class of questions answerable by SRT and, if so,
what answer it gives.
On the other hand, if the above is as close as you can come to
formulating a well-posed question, then I might be able to refer
you to a passage from a book I believe you own, namely, Einstein's
"Relativity, The Special and General Theory", originally written as
a popular survey in 1916. This little book happens to be the poorest
presentation of relativity that Einstein ever wrote, but anyway, if
your "question" is interpreted as "Please tell us all what [Einstein's
book] says explicitly about the arbitrary, solitary inertial observer"
then you might review the following passage:
"In the first place, we started out with the assumption
that there exists a reference body K whose condition is
such that the Galilean Law holds with respect to it:
A particle left to itself and sufficiently
far removed from all other particles moves
uniformly in a straight line.
With reference to K the laws of nature were to be as
simple as possible. But in addition to K, all bodies
of reference K' should...be exactly equivalent to K
for the formulation of natural laws, provided they
are in a state of uniform rectilinear and non-rotary
motion with respect to K; all these bodies are to be
regarded as Galilean reference bodies."
Based on these assumptions, Einstein shows how the empirical evidence
requires us to relinquish the convention of absolute simultaneity. In
other words, he showed that
The assumption of spatial and mechanical isotropy in all
inertial frames is *empirically* incompatible with the
assumption of unique simultaneity for all inertial frames.
Since this has been stated in previous posts and you've notably
avoided taking exception to it, I assume we're in agreement as to
the basis of special relativity. Of course, as Einstein observed,
this basis contains an inherent epistemological defect (just as
does Newtonian mechanics), which is that it requires us to assume
an object left to itself moves uniformly in a straight line if it
is "sufficiently far removed" from all other objects, but the only
way we have of knowing whether an object is sufficiently far removed
from all other objects is if it moves uniformly in a straight line.
Thus the identification of inertial frames in SRT (as in Newtonian
mechanics) is circular, and Einstein was acutely aware of this.
That's why he worked so intensely between 1905 and 1915 to place
SRT within a sound (or at least more sound) framework, arriving
finally at general relativity, a truly beautiful theory.
Sadly, this "relativity" newsgroup rarely even touches on Einstein's
final version of relativity (GR), which was created largely to address
the epistemological issues left unanswered by the early incomplete
version of relativity (SR). Instead, this newsgroup contains endless
(and mostly clueless) examinations of the philosophical foundations of
the early incomplete theory (SR) which, since 1915, really exists only
as a utilitarian set of numerical approximations and limiting cases.
Albro Swift wrote:
The assumption of spatial and mechanical isotropy in all
inertial frames is *empirically* incompatible with the
assumption of unique simultaneity for all inertial frames.
Brian Jones responded:
There is nothing "empirical" about any assumption.
The word 'empirically' modifies 'incompatible' (not 'assumption').
This incompatibility is the heart of the matter. Your position
here is that there's no empirical necessity for the abandonment of
absolute simultaneity. That is perfectly correct. Your numerous
posts here about "one-way light-speed", etc., all seem to be attempts
on your part to argue this point, but in fact there is no disagreement
on this point at all! No experiment can disprove the convention
of absolute simultaneity. This is not controversial, nor is it
new. It was emphasized by Poincare, Einstein, and many others.
So, you might ask, where is the disagreement? Well, just as there
is no experiment that can faslify the Galilean convention of absolute
simultaneity, there is also none that can falsify the Galilean
convention of spatial and mechanical isotropy in all inertial frames.
You've not commented on this, but you can hardly disagree with it,
since it follows from the same arguments that rule out the
falsification of absolute simultaneity. They are really two
sides of the same coin.
Now, here is the crucial point:
No experiment can rule out absolute simultaneity, and no
experiment can rule out spatial isotropy in all inertial
frames. HOWEVER, there ARE experiments that can rule out
the COMBINATION of both those assumptions. This is what
we mean when we say those two assumptions are empirically
incompatible WITH EACH OTHER. We're perfectly free to
adopt one or the other - and no experiment can prove us
wrong - but if we adopt BOTH of those conventions we CAN
be proven wrong by experiment.
To see how two individually viable conventions may be mutually
incompatible, consider the well-known fact that we can regard the
Earth's surface as being actually flat, with the peculiar property
that the sizes of physical objects and time intervals become
distorted radially, and light rays bend, as we move away from some
fixed point. As Poincare stressed, this sort of thing is entirely
a matter of convention. Likewise we're free to assume an overall
metrical uniformity of the Earth's surface, i.e., spatial and
mechanical isotropy on some scale. Neither of these conventions
can be disproven by experiment. HOWEVER, it IS possible to
demonstrate empirically that these two conventions are *mutually
incompatible*. This is exactly the state of affairs with respect
to the conventions of absolute simultaneity and spatial isotropy
for all inertial frames.
From here the discussion could proceed in one of two directions.
You may disagree with the above, i.e., you may claim that the
two Galilean conventions are NOT incompatible, in which case
I could proceed to describe experiments that demonstrate the
incompatibility. On the other hand, it's possible that you
actually agree with the empirical incompatibility of the two
Galilean conventions, in which case your complaint is simply
that the usual formalism of relativity is based on poor
choice of conventions. You're certainly entitled to that
opinion, but it's really just a formal objection rather than
a substantive one. We can interpret SR along the lines of
Lorentz's theory, just as we're free to interpret general
relativity as a field theory in flat spacetime instead of
as a metrical theory of curved spacetime. These are just
different ways of looking at the same thing.
So you need to decide: are you making a substantive objection
to special relativity, or merely a formal one?
Albro Swift wrote:
...Einstein's "Relativity, The Special and General Theory",
originally written as a popular survey in 1916. This little
book happens to be the poorest presentation of relativity
that Einstein ever wrote...
Brian Jones replied:
How many other presentations of relativity did he write, anyway?
Not counting his 1905 paper, only one.
You're mistaken. Einstein wrote many accounts of relativity
theory over the years, aimed at different audiences. Even
setting aside the several research papers on various aspects of
relativity that he published in scholarly journals from 1905 (when
he published TWO papers, not one, on relativity) through the 1920s,
he wrote numerous more or less popular expositions for different
occassions, ranging from the 1907 review article "On the Relativity
Principle...", to the 1928 article "Fundamental Concepts of Physics
and Their Most Recent Changes", to the Oxford Lecture in 1933 "On
the Method of Theoretical Physics", to the Glasgow lecture of the
same year "Origins of the General Theory of Relativity". He even
wrote a lengthy (and quite good) exposition on space and time for
the Encyclopedia Britannica. In addition to these, we have his
excellent book "The Meaning of Relativity" [Princeton], which he
saw through five editions, and the book "The Evolution of Physics"
written with Infeld. Of all these, the book you have evidently
relied on is the most "cartoonish" and lowest level, meant really
for young school children and people afraid of math.
Brian Jones wrote:
And even in his book "Relativity," he told no lies, as far
as we know. For example, when he stated that an inertial
observer found that light's speed varied per the simple
equation c-v, this is exactly what he meant.
You can't be serious. Surely you're not referring to the passage
that reads
"w is the required velocity of light with respect
to the carriage, and we have w=c-v. The velocity of
propogation of a ray of light thus comes out smaller
than c.
But this result comes into conflict with the principle
of relativity..." [snip explanation of why w does NOT
in fact equal c-v.]
If this little literary device is what led you into your present
state of confusion then it just demonstrates that the book is
pedagogically unfortunate. On the other hand, the reader can't
be held entirely blameless. It's as if you had read Galileo's
"Dialogue on the Two Chief World Systems" and came away thinking
Simplicio was one sharp dude.
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