Tilting Pisa
Matt Seaborn wrote:
...if these two ships take positions some distance apart, match their
clocks and accelerate identically to relativistic speeds towards each
others then the statement in the previous paragraph becomes true. If
these ships then decelerate so that they are in the same frame how do
their clocks compare, as each has supposedly been going slower than the
other?
Maybe some pictures would help. (Use a fixed-pitch font to look at
these.) Initially the two ships are at rest relative to each other,
and not accelerating relative to the (assumed flat) spacetime metric
in this region [note 1]. This condition is illustrated below:
t_a | t_b |
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............A............ ...........B............
| x_a | x_b
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The symbols t_* and x_* denote the time and space axes, respectively, of
observers A and B in this initial condition. Note that their lines of
simultaneity (i.e., the dotted "space" axes) are identical.
Now suppose observers A and B abruptly accelerate toward each other
by the same amount, so they now have high constant velocities, with A
moving to the right and B to the left. Their space and time axes now
look like this:
t_b \ / t_a
\ /
\ /
x
/ \
/ \
. / \ .
x_b ' . / \ . ' x_a
' . / \ . '
' r s '
/ ' . . ' \
/ . ' . \
/ . ' ' . \
A ' ' B
. '/ \' .
. ' / \ ' .
' / \ '
The fact that the time axes tilt in the direction of motion should
be familiar to you, because they do the same thing in the classical
Galilean theory of relativity. Regardless of your state of motion,
you can take your worldline as your (proper) time axis. However,
you may be a little surprised to see that the SPACE axes of the two
observers have also been "tilted". In Galilean relativity the space
axis (representing a line of simultaneity) never tilts; it is always
flat and the same for all observers. In Einsteinian relativity
the space and time axes both tilt symmetrically about the "null"
worldlines, which are the paths that light rays follow in a vacuum.
Before explaining WHY they tilt this way, let's first observe that
this tilt answers your question about how time passes for each
observer relative to the other observer's frame of reference.
As observer A abruptly accelerates, his space axis shifts from
horizontal in the first figure to an upward tilt in the second
figure, so initially he was simultaneous with the point on B's
worldline labeled "B", whereas following the acceleration he is
now simultaneous with the point on B's worldline labeled "s". Thus,
according to A's frame of reference, observer B has advanced from
the location marked "B" to the location marked "s" in however long
it took for A to accelerate - and we can assume the acceleration
occurs over as short a time span as we like. This implies that
B's clock is advancing VERY rapidly according to A's reference
frame as A accelerates.
Likewise, according to B's reference frame, observer A jumps from
the point labelled "A" to the point labeled "r" as B accelerates.
Then, once they have both accelerated and are moving at constant
speed, each clock is advancing slow relative to the other observer's
frame of reference, until they smash into each other at point x,
at which point they will both show the same total elapsed time on
their clocks, because first they saw each other jump ahead (during
the accelerations), and then they saw each other going slow (while
travelling at constant speed).
If you're new at this, you'll probably want to dream up all sorts
of other scenarios with various initial conditions and patterns
of accelerations, etc., and you'll find that they all work out
consistently. Then, if you get over your aversion to math, you
would notice (as Minkowski did) that there is a very simply way
of encapsulating Einsteinian relativity in the form of a metric,
from which it is self-evident that you must always get consistent
answers.
However, the more interesting question is why we need to tilt the
space axes for different frames of reference. What's wrong with the
Galilean notion of leaving the space axes unaffected? Well, if you
think about it for a minute, you can see that Galilean relativity
doesn't make perfect sense, because on one hand it clearly implies
a transmutability between space and time, as shown by the tilting of
the time axes in the spacetime plane due to motion, but on the other
hand it does not allow for any absolute measure of the complete
spatio-temporal separation between two events. Let me try to
explain this problem.
Given two arbitrary events at two different locations and times,
Galilean relativity tells us that the temporal separation between
those two events is some absolute constant relative to any and
every inertial frame, but the SPATIAL distance between those two
events is indefinite, and can range anywhere from zero to infinity,
depending on the choice of reference frame.
If we want an absolute measure of the spatio-temporal separation
between two events (meaning a measure that is applicable to any
and every reference frame), we need a function S of the individual
space and time separations del_x and del_t with respect to a given
reference frame, such that S returns the same absolute separation
for those two specific events, regardless of the frame of reference.
But this is clearly a problem for Galilean relativity, because for
two specific events we have del_t = constant for all frames and
del_x varies from 0 to infinity. The only way to get an invariant
function of del_t and del_x in these circumstances is to simply
IGNORE del_x and define the measure S(del_x,del_t) as something
like (del_t)^2.
This is not very satisfactory, because there surely seems to be a
physically significant distinction between our separation from the
Sun tomorrow and our separation from the Andromeda galaxy tomorrow,
even though according to Galilean relativity they are both just
one day away, which has absolute significance, whereas their
spatial distances have no absolute significance, and we could just
as well be spatially "close" to Andromeda and "far" from the Sun.
This occurs because, according to Galilean relativity, we can
use motion (which translates between space and time) to create
or annihilate spatial separation, but we cannot affect temporal
separation at all, and *no quantity involving spatial separation
is conserved from one inertial reference frame to another*.
Thus, motion within the context of Galilean relativity is really
very peculiar, and doesn't make a lot of sense from a purely
abstract point of view. In order to artificially impose some
"sense" on it, people like Newton had to introduce the problematical
concept of absolute space to give some ontological significance to
spatial separation, but this move was contrary to the essential
content of Galilean relativity, as pointed out by Huygens, Berkeley,
Leibniz, Mach, and so on. The fundamental problems with the naive
concept of motion in the context of Galilean relativity can even be
seen in Zeno's arguments on motion circa 500 BC (particularly in
his argument known as "The Stade").
In contrast, Einsteinian relativity gives a logically coherent
absolute measure of spatio-temporal separation for any two events,
namely, S(delta_x,delta_t) = (delta_t)^2 - (delta_x/c)^2 for some
constant c. (The hyperbolic form of this function is strongly
suggested by the uni-directionality of time as distinct from
space, but I won't go into that.) This quantity is invariant
when evaluated with respect to any and every inertial frame of
reference. Of course, if c is fairly large in terms of ordinary
units, the second term becomes negligible, and we have something
that could empirically be mistaken for Galilean relativity, where
S equals simply (delta_t)^2. However, from a logical standpoint,
Einsteinian relativity with some finite value of c is far more
intelligible. As Minkowski mused
"...it looks as though the thought might have struck some
mathematician, fancy free, that natural phenomena do not
possess an invariance with the group G_inf, but rather
with a group G_c, c being finite and determinate, but
in ordinary units of measure extremely great. Such a
premonition would have been an extraordinary triumph
for pure mathematics."
Unfortunately, none of the critics of Galilean invariance, from
Zeno to Mach, had this premonition, so we needed to wait until
an accumulation of experimental results forced the idea upon us.
Note 1: Please do not ask what determines the metric in this region
of spacetime, because that would lead to a consideration of
cosmology and general relativity, whereas this newsgroup
is devoted exclusively to *special* relativity, i.e., the
epistemologically crippled theory that Einstein abandoned
in 1911.
Matt Seaborn wrote:
A second question is about acceleration. If acceleration is the same
as being in a gravitational field, does it also affect space time in
the same manner. So in the above example would the fact that they
accelerate affect the time flow *in addition* to their relative
speeds? If so what about the fact that general relativity (?) puts
no upper limit on acceleration?
Now you've done it. As soon as you introduce the Equivalence
Principle you undermine the intelligibility of special relativity,
as Einstein clearly perceived around 1907. This was Einstein's best
moment, having won attention and honors for his theory of special
relativity, he was immediately willing to challenge and deconstruct
his own theory, discarding global Lorentz invariance, to seek
whatever was necessary to make a theory consistent with the
Equivalence Principle. (As Wilde said, "The witty contradict
other people; the wise contradict themselves".)
But seriously, if you want to gain a mature understanding of the
modern theory of relativity (viz, general relativity), you will need
to exit from this newsgroup, which is filled with roving packs of
specially-trained Pavlovian dogs who begin to hyper-ventilate at
the mere mention of the words "general relativity" and "twins
paradox" in the same post. For a sensible discussion of the twins
paradox that doesn't duck the Equivalence Principle, see Max Born's
excellent "Einstein's Theory of Relativity", in which you'll find a
quantitative analysis of the twins situation with the accelerations
treated as gravitational fields and vice versa. You won't find an
explanation of that kind in this newsgroup (at least not often),
because it traces the asymmetry of the twins back to a cosmological
source. This is actually a superior explanation from an epistemological
standpoint, but it's more fun to taunt mathematically-averse people
about not being able to grasp the workings of ds^2 = dt^2 - dx^2
than it is to give philosophically meaningful answers.
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